So, I’ve spent the last few days reading up on all of the posts around here. It’s very interesting to see what is working for everyone and I appreciate you all sharing your results.
Over the last 6 months i have been building out campaigns and a lead capture system for various network marketing companies. The companies I choose to promote are not quizzes or dating offers, they are biz ops for real products that many people view as a valuable or a necessary part of life.
They deal with: Gold & Silver Food Coffee Travel
I’ve spent a significant amount of time and energy building up landing pages, tracking and autoresponders and have easy ways of customizing and tweaking the pages to figure out what works. The campaigns are online and operational and the entire system duplicates itself so that anyone who ultimately joins in to one of the companies can just plug in and also gets to use the system, pages, autoresponders, etc.
The next step is to run traffic, and that is why I am here. As I’ve already invested a significant amount of time and money into creating this site, the advertising budget starting off is fairly low. I want to do a few smaller tests and scale up.
I’m seeking out different ways to drive traffic to these campaigns, ideas on some angles I could use to make these work, as well as getting some advice from the pros on why these campaigns will succeed or fail.
I have many variations for each campaign and this forum is making me think of how i can tweak these slightly with an angle to target specific groups of people. Here are my personal favorite capture pages for each of the campaigns:
Gold and Silver
Earn While You Eat
Travel The World
I’m curious to get some feedback and hear what you have to say about my plan. Any and all comments and suggestions welcome.
"I have many variations for each campaign and this forum is making me think of how i can tweak these slightly with an angle to target specific groups of people."
That line there is what will make the difference in your campaign. If your targeting isn’t very specific, your throwing everything out the window.
Overall I’m a bit confused after reading. I’m confused mainly with what your selling/how you’ll be bringing in actual money.
Aside from that, there are many options to get traffic. Do you have experience with any traffic sources?
The only initial downside i see about everything is that there all very competitive niches, which means expensive traffic. You are gathering emails though which changes your potential outcome depending on your backend funnel you have planned.
Currently the only targeting i’ve thought of is biz op buyers but as you said, this is an extremely expensive niche to buy traffic for.
There are a few ways baked into this to make money.
#1 Money is made when people signup for the business opportunity. The gold and Silver pays out $100 per signup plus monthly volume on coin sales, the food, coffee, and travel, pay signup bonuses as well as residual commissions when products are sold throughout your team. People have amassed great fortunes just by putting the right people into the right system. If the system works and duplication kicks in, there is nothing stopping it from generating millions in residual income from just one of these companies becoming successful.
#2 I have packaged the marketing system so people who are already in one of these 4 companies can just plug in and start using my system to build their own team. A monthly membership fee is charged to continue using the lead generation system. There is targeting potential here as existing distributors of these companies are easy to seek out and target.
#3 With hundreds and eventually thousands of people using the system, some may not be able to generate their own leads. While the system does all of the followup for you, there is still need to run traffic to get them there. Some people can’t even be bothered with that and would rather pay for leads. I’ve seen other systems selling leads for up to $4 each. If I can find cheap sources of traffic that convert, this could be my best money maker.
Not to the extent as you guys have. which is why i’m here. everything built so far has been from word of mouth, facebook wall postings, and various free traffic sources such as craigslist, safelists mailers, and local efforts.
Yes, and perhaps this is what changes the game. Once I have them subscribed I can pitch them one of the other 4 companies every few weeks. If they don’t buy into that, there is an endless stream of guru launches and traffic generation clickbank ebooks to sell later on. Power in the list? Seems like you guys are mainly focused on building the lists of the cpa networks and advertisers, which confuses me.
At some point when I get profitable campaigns, it might make sense for me to actually BECOME an advertiser on one of these networks and just let you guys run the traffic. Lots to think about and even more work to get done…
I will not stop until this becomes profitable! Thanks for taking the time to check this out.
PS if you are really curious, i just posted a fairly long video on simple2profit.com which shows in detail, every aspect of the marketing system backend. It’s on the ‘system’ page.
all hand coded php goodness!
I have packaged the marketing system so people who are already in one of these 4 companies can just plug in and start using my system to build their own team. A monthly membership fee is charged to continue using the lead generation system. There is targeting potential here as existing distributors of these companies are easy to seek out and target.
You could do PPV traffic bidding on these 4 companies’ sites as targets. I would believe that the companies have some sort of website where people log in to check their stats and other things, so maybe you could get at least some traffic, depending of the number of members these companies have. With PPV you could also target other MLM/network marketing related websites, forums etc. The key will be to figure out where the members of these 4 companies hang out and especially which websites they visit. Maybe your system works with MLM in general?
Another way would be to contact people with email lists in the network marketing niche and ask them to promote the product for you.
Gotcha, i understand now
Well your selling small business oppurtunity’s that have large payouts. The PPC game for such large payouts will require quite a bit of $ in testing… before you know what works and what doesn’t. It’s going to be hard for you to compete with bizopps that are completely free (on the frontend) to the end user. So you’ll want to choose a traffic source that doesn’t allow the avg bizzop. First thing that comes to mind is Adwords, but you’ll have tons of competition there. You could try Facebook but you may have a hard time getting approved. I’d recommend one of those 2 to start, as they both have enough traffic to make you a fortune if you figure out the right recipe.
I’d initially try all the offers except the gold/silver one on Adwords. Gold/silver will cost you a LOT of money per bid. On Facebook I’d try all or whichever you have the most experience with.
There’s a lot of guides on the forums on how to get started with Facebook. I don’t have many guides on Adwords because most of the forum members are CPA marketers and Adwords hates CPA!
Much appreciated stack. Thanks for the advice guys.
What about joining one of these CPA networks an an ADVERTISER and having their publishers send traffic? I’d imagine there are startup costs and commitments to uphold but perhaps ther eis a smaller company who would start small and scale it up with me?
I was also starting to look into hasoffers and other affiliate program networks where i could possibly leverage their affiliate base to get the word out about the marketing system which would trickle down into hits and leads for the various sales funnels.
As I dive deeper into these different forms of advertising, I am starting to get ideas on how the tools I built with minor changes could be extended to work for all of the various types of offers i see being discussed here. Not looking to try and recreate prosper, but I see some major potential in this area and will keep you updated with anything I come up with. This is the latest page that ties together everything: http://Simple2Profit.com
As for joining as an advertiser..
There’s a bunch of things, first are all these offers yours? or you make a commission and they’re owned by someone else?
When joining a Network as an Advertiser; the network want to see some serious sales numbers, conversion rates and EPCs that are very competitive with current top offers they have. They want offers that dominate the market, so keep that in mind
The Article Published IN 03-26-2011 03:44 PM